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160 points by speckx 2 hours ago | 97 comments
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nonethewiser 2 hours ago [-]
Maybe one of my favorite examples

https://plaintextsports.com/

Another well known one and particularly interesting since it's one of the most valuable companies in the world and this is their real website and not something they've just kept for historical purposes or something. https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/

I would pay good money to watch a clear-glasses-framed youngster pitch Buffet on turning the BH website into a progressive web app.

Lots of examples here (although many do have some amount of styling): https://sjmulder.nl/en/textonly.html

SoftTalker 2 hours ago [-]
https://lite.cnn.com/ for news. Especially on mobile.
munificent 55 minutes ago [-]
This one is a Godsend during natural disasters when power and wifi is out but you still have some cell access and want to know what's happening.
latexr 1 hours ago [-]
Also https://text.npr.org/
_Algernon_ 57 minutes ago [-]
The (non-compliant) cookie banner covering half the screen kinda ruins the mood.
SoftTalker 17 minutes ago [-]
Hmm, I don't see that (in USA, on Safari/iOS with no extra ad block).
josteink 1 hours ago [-]
Wow. That’s really nice. Almost good enough to make me consider it for my daily news skim.
zahlman 1 hours ago [-]
> this is their real website and not something they've just kept for historical purposes or something. https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/

Seeing "<font size=..." makes me wince a bit, but it sure is refreshing to see something like this in the current year. (Also, is the Geico ad hard-coded?)

scarface_74 1 hours ago [-]
They own Geico.
nkrisc 1 hours ago [-]
> I would pay good money to watch a clear-glasses-framed youngster pitch Buffet on turning the BH website into a progressive web app.

How about pitching an hour of work to make it easy to read on mobile? Not that I think BH cares, but in this day and age making it layout nicely on mobile is the least you can do and isn’t particularly difficult anymore.

sugarpimpdorsey 1 hours ago [-]
Mr. Buffett seems like the kind of guy that makes you shut your phone off during a meeting. When you're conducting 'serious business' in your Brooks Brothers suit and silk tie at the oaken table you'll have a real computer open anyway.
rkagerer 34 minutes ago [-]
The "message from Warren Buffet" feels a bit slimey.

They already have ads on their landing page for the same thing. That extra message comes across like a used car salesman. He could have phrased it to be informative but in a somewhat more impartial writing style.

nkrisc 56 minutes ago [-]
Yes I don’t expect to see the BH site in particular be mobile friendly, but there’s lots of text only sites that are terrible to read on mobile. By “mobile-friendly” I just mean set the viewport width to something reasonable relative to the font size.
sugarpimpdorsey 46 minutes ago [-]
Most of these sites predate viewport tags.

http://stallman.org/ is another one. Though that's more likely because your mobile device is full of non-free badware or something so why encourage it.

mgfist 43 minutes ago [-]
> How about pitching an hour of work to make it easy to read on mobile? Not that I think BH cares, but in this day and age making it layout nicely on mobile is the least you can do and isn’t particularly difficult anymore.

I think it looks great on mobile. It's fast as shit and I'm still just a 2 clicks away from an annual report. Frankly I often prefer the desktop layout even on mobile.

scarface_74 1 hours ago [-]
The NPR website was amazingly slow to load to be text only
jmclnx 2 hours ago [-]
I am not a sports follower, but the site is very nice.

It is a very nice quick goto when some friends start talking sports and I can pretend I care :)

My favorite sites are:

https://lite.cnn.com/

https://sjmulder.nl/en/textonly.html

https://text.npr.org/

Plus gopher and gemini :)

Thanks

pandorobo 2 hours ago [-]
Color contrast is also important. Like actually putting a readable header on the page. ('^_^)
alias_neo 1 hours ago [-]
This gives me a silly idea for an "accessibility" mode, where absolutely everything on the page is invisible to sighted people, but clearly, and perfectly readable to screen readers etc.

I did some professional services work years ago, very early in my career for a public-sector client that wanted accessibility features given absolute care and attention.

It really gave me some perspective and I've tried to be conscious of it ever since; though I'm purely back-end nowadays so it doesn't apply as much.

Y_Y 7 minutes ago [-]
Maybe you could use STT so that the only written text visible is that which was able to pass through the screen reader.
albanbrooke 1 hours ago [-]
Yikes, I think I just fixed it. I'd never looked at my site in dark mode before.
1024kb 2 hours ago [-]
I quite enjoy reading Chris Siebenmann's blog [https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/] which is very light on theming, as I really like the aesthetic. I have to say though, if all blogs were like this the Internet might seem a bit boring, so I chose to give my own blog some personality.
ftio 2 hours ago [-]
When I first built my current site, it was fully unstyled like Chris', but as I started making little tweaks, they snowballed into a proper design. I couldn't help but add more of my personality to it.

Part of the joy of having a personal website that nobody reads is that it can act as a playground, and the design is part of that.

aethrum 1 hours ago [-]
What do you like about reading this? Its so hard to read for me on a 27 inch monitor in a full screen browser window, lol
tristramb 1 hours ago [-]
This is how most of The Web was in the early days, with some of the clunkiness smoothed out.
floppyd 2 hours ago [-]
While I do agree — using at least a non-monospaced font would be a choice that's nicer to the reader.
bee_rider 1 hours ago [-]
Ideally websites wouldn’t specify a font at all, other than cases where that’s a necessary part of the design.

The capability is nice to have—for example, if your website is a coding tutorial website, and you have interspersed code examples and prose, put the code examples in a fixed width font. But it is over-used. For example, why do sites pick serif vs non-serif? Leave it up to my browser.

tombert 32 minutes ago [-]
This is why I almost always send emails as plain text. I want people to be able to read their emails in any font they would like, not necessarily the font I used when I wrote the email.

This isn’t just superficial, some people might use certain fonts that are easier to read for dyslexia, and I don’t think I should make their life artificially harder if it’s trivial for me to simply send a message as plain text.

accrual 2 hours ago [-]
Pros on cons I suppose. I liked the monospace font and I think it works well for some content, especially shorter form content.

IMO a nice serif font is ideal for long form content though. I remember reading the serifs help guide ones eyes into the next character and create more unique shapes than sans or monospace.

upofadown 1 hours ago [-]
There has been some recent research on this sort of thing. It ends up being whatever you are used to. Everyone used to think serif was better for reading but then everyone started reading a lot of sans on computer screens. So now people think sans is somehow inherently better.

It's the same for mono vs proportional spacing. You are better at reading that which you have the most practice with. Most people are not used to reading monospaced prose even if they have seen a lot of monospaced code.

nailer 39 minutes ago [-]
> Most people are not used to reading monospaced prose even if they have seen a lot of monospaced code.

I've noticed that too - I read code all day, but there's something very odd about having conversations (prose) with Claude Code via a terminal window.

albanbrooke 2 hours ago [-]
Haha, I agree! This is my blog and I can definitely improve the readability.
cosmicgadget 2 hours ago [-]
Browser reading mode is an easy workaround.
bee_rider 1 hours ago [-]
It is, but it is also a bit annoying that we have a “render sensibly” button now. Why isn’t that the default?
layer8 51 minutes ago [-]
It depends, sometimes it doesn’t work on Safari, and Reader Mode still shows monospace. Might be <tt> vs. something else.
rickcarlino 2 hours ago [-]
I agree that a text-focused web experience is important. The modern web makes it too easy to add trackers, consent banners, ads, and other distractions that pull attention away from the content.

There’s actually a network protocol separate from the web with a small but growing user base. It uses a Markdown inspired format called Gemtext, has no cookies or trackers, and avoids most of the usual bloat seen in 2025. It’s called the Gemini protocol. It’s not perfect from the perspective of protocol design (which some people on HN can’t seem to get over), but it works, it has real users, and you can try it today.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)

zahlman 2 hours ago [-]
What the hell. Amazing to learn that people actually try to get things like this off the ground. I can remember many years ago having the kernel of a similar idea. Except I also imagined using JSON to describe page layout, like a common "UI form designer" language. On the other hand, this gets much further into the transport protocol, as opposed to just page content.
JdeBP 23 minutes ago [-]
It has come up on Hacker News fairly regularly over the past few years. Some examples:

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44631577

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44645144

shahzaibmushtaq 9 minutes ago [-]
How about making a complete website using only CSS1?
BrouteMinou 1 hours ago [-]
I read the whole thing in Lynx. That's a beautiful thing, too.
Hadriel 3 minutes ago [-]
how? Lynx looks like a opinionated boilerplate for creating apps?
Telaneo 1 hours ago [-]
Images and video are great, but everything in moderation. An image here and there to illustrate or demonstrate, but it's probably a good idea to limit yourself before loading time becomes a problem on slower connections.

The real problem that I've noticed in most cases comes from excessive JS. If you don't use JS, then you can't do tracking banner, since you can't track, can't really do ads, and video autoplay via the video tag is already disabled in browsers, so you can't do that either. With no JS, it's functionally impossible to do most of the things the ad-pilled marketers want to do with a website that makes it so horrible for the rest of us.

JS can be used in moderation too, but it opens the door to temptation, and the road from there to slow load times even on good connections is awfully short it seems.

almostbasic 48 minutes ago [-]
Agreed. 99% of the websites out there today are so loaded with images and videos that they would've taken 25 minutes to open on dial up.
tombert 36 minutes ago [-]
I currently use Hugo with a fairly lightweight theme for my blog, which I like ok, but my stuff is primarily text and I’ve debated trying to find something even lighter.

The issue is that I do use pictures occasionally in my posts, and these aren’t just flavor, it’ll be graphs and screenshots and stuff. I also do use Javascript purely for the client-side search [1] and going hyper-minimal kind of means a rejection of JavaScript. Search isn’t strictly “necessary” but kind of nice.

And that’s the recurring theme I keep finding; 99% of stuff can easily be converted to a dumb and fast text-only thing, but then there’s that one thing that makes me keep stuff bloated.

[1] https://blog.tombert.com/posts/2025-03-12-search-v2/

blankx32 2 hours ago [-]
Grey text on white background :-(
dcchambers 2 hours ago [-]
Do you actually have trouble reading it?

#111111 is pretty close to black.

According to https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/, the contrast is 18.88:1 and easily passes all of the accessibility tests.

bitpush 2 hours ago [-]
There's an #EEE text on #FFF at the bottom of the post.
Elfener 2 hours ago [-]
And the title too.

The page has a @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) style that causes this, so those in light mode are unaffected.

dcchambers 2 hours ago [-]
Oh - I'm in light mode and all the text on the page is #111111 with a #ffffff background. Switched to dark mode and now I see what you're saying - indeed that's not great.
coder543 2 hours ago [-]
There seems to be a bug in this blog's stylesheet where the headings are significantly lower contrast if the browser renders prefers-color-scheme as dark instead of light.

I had my browser/OS in light mode, so the contrast was excellent, but I tried dark mode just to see what would happen, and it was... not excellent.

albanbrooke 1 hours ago [-]
Thank you! This is my site, and your comment helped me fix it.
zahlman 1 hours ago [-]
The title is also showing up as #EEE on #FFF for me, but the inspector view is showing a bunch of other "computed" colour values in the CSS.
accrual 2 hours ago [-]
Yes, I found the main body perfectly readable, but the lighter grey on white could be a problem for some. I'd use something like #777 or darker here.
2 hours ago [-]
dcchambers 2 hours ago [-]
Oh - I'm in light mode and all the text on the page is #111111 with a #ffffff background. Switched to dark mode and now I see what you're saying - indeed that's not great.
layer8 48 minutes ago [-]
One problem is that IPS panels only have a contrast ratio of 1:1000 at best, meaning that #000000 black is already gray.
JCM9 1 hours ago [-]
Web design has gotten too complicated. I really enjoy a simple site that focuses on content and readability vs fancy frameworks. There are sites still online from the 90s that looks better than much of the stuff produced today. Plus keeping it basic means your site will work well and look good forever.

Remember all those nonsense Flash intros sites used to have? For whatever reason restaurants were the worst at this (probably because consultants building these sites impressed the owner with “fancy stuff”). They were horrible… like just show me your friggin menu and don’t make we watch a 30 second nonsense intro to your website.

The modern version of that are these horrible single page templates that everyone uses where you just keep scrolling and scrolling and the “menu” is just taking you to different parts of this scroll-o-rama nonsense. I’ll take basic with good content over fancy design all day long.

codingclaws 2 hours ago [-]
Couldn't agree more. I love text only pages/sites that have some style.
m463 23 minutes ago [-]
I find it amusing that many text-only webpages emphasize it with a typewriter font.
bitpush 20 minutes ago [-]
I find author's position to be very confusing.

From https://albanbrooke.com/

> But over the past ~30 years, the internet has become much more commercial. Every page is optimized for engagement, so your attention can be resold to ad companies. It just kinda sucks.

later in the same page

> I'm the Head of Marketing for Buzzsprout, a podcast SaaS built on RSS.

And https://www.buzzsprout.com/ads is exactly what you'd expect. The author has no trouble working and getting paid for the same thing they lament.

Y_Y 2 minutes ago [-]
Fwiw, I work in an industry I've come to abhor (computer vision for security, often euphemised to "smart cities"). I hold my nose and wear my golden handcuffs reluctantly, and "technology transfer" FOSS into garbage products for incompetent middle managers by day, then talk shit about them at night to feel better.

Perhaps the author is in a similar situation?

tyleo 19 minutes ago [-]
I suspect they use this for two things:

1. Monospace which helps with formatting

2. Availability: I don’t think there are a whole lot of built-in monospace fonts

BugsJustFindMe 2 hours ago [-]
> Hosting text is so cheap

Hosting images is cheap too. GitHub will even do it for free!

kaycebasques 2 hours ago [-]
I have tried using a GitHub repo to host photos that I displayed on a different website. IIRC it didn't work great. I would try to access the photos over the raw GitHub URLs and I'm pretty sure they would often 404. Was I holding it wrong? Are there any great guides on this topic? I also remember that "uploading" photos over Git was a pain. Basically could only upload one at a time.
BugsJustFindMe 21 minutes ago [-]
I meant using GitHub to host your whole site through gh-pages, not hotlinking to assets from some other unrelated server. You can even use your own domain.
guizadillas 1 hours ago [-]
I think they meant using github to host the page (with photos), not using github as a host for photos (iirc it isn't possible)
meken 50 minutes ago [-]
I just paste a screenshot into a GitHub issue and use the link it gives me.
datadrivenangel 2 hours ago [-]
Hotlinking tends to be rough because people abuse github for free hosting. If the images are linked in a github page it usualkly works fine.
datadrivenangel 2 hours ago [-]
I think the beauty comes from the simplicity and focus. Many websites with a lot of things going on can also be beautiful because they're so focused.

See Single Serving Sites as an example: https://singleservingsites.cool/

1vuio0pswjnm7 40 minutes ago [-]
I get every webpage as text-only

I can reformat webpages into formatted text exactly the way I want it; I can save the important bits into an SQL database (I like the text-only output of sqlite3)

I do not use a popular, so-called "modern" browser; no graphics, no automatic sourcing of resources (files), no css, no javascript

I cannot understand why HN commenters believe that text-only is up to the web developer (whereupon the web user must look for aesthetcially-pleasing websites)

Text-only is up to the web user; all webpages look more or less the same to me; it's just text

Why use a graphical browser to view text

If you can come up with reasons, then either (a) you are a web developer or (b) you will be a target for online ads, whether you like them or not^1

1. And you will spend a gross amount of time and energy trying to "block" them

Please don't misunderstand me; sometimes one needs graphics, fonts, etc.; but that decision is up to the web user, not the web developer

Y_Y 32 minutes ago [-]
I wish I could live like this, but I don't use the internet just for pleasure. There are things like buying flights, buying concert tickets, anything with a bank, etc. that require exactly the setup that the web developer had, lest the site explode.

It's also very difficult to delegate since they'll want some cybersecurity theatre "verifciation" that requires multiple devices, cursed mobile apps, and "selfies".

I don't see any way around this apart from not taking flights, or paying a lot more for these privileges.

tombert 35 minutes ago [-]
Which browser do you use? W3m? Elinks?
kh_hk 2 hours ago [-]
At some point we will have to get past the meta of blog posts about blog posts though.
SoftTalker 1 hours ago [-]
Everyone tends to think that what's new to themselves is new to everyone else too. So that's why we see the same "discoveries" talked about over and over, and fashion trends recycling every 10 years or so.

When you are old enough you see this phenomenon everywhere. My reply here might even be an example of it!

zahlman 1 hours ago [-]
> My reply here might even be an example of it!

I think it is, but I didn't realize it until you pointed it out ;)

cosmicgadget 2 hours ago [-]
Maybe I see too many 16pt font powerpoints but I like images. Images don't require a cdn or cookie banner or javascript, there is ample daylight between text only and heavyweight.
a904guy 1 hours ago [-]
Ooo, I have a fun one!

https://hawkins.tech/

JdeBP 36 minutes ago [-]
Presumably you mean because with 19/20 of it being JavaScript that maxes out multiple processors to continually redraw graphics with only three words of text on the opening screen, it is the complete antithesis of what the headlined article talks about. (-:
tdhz77 1 hours ago [-]
Will follow up with the beauty of readable fonts on text only webpages. I found this font of the blog hard to read.
delduca 1 hours ago [-]
All of my websites have zero JavaScript or cookies, loads on a blink.
jacknews 2 hours ago [-]
Text-only is fine, but why do you need to make it look like a page of typewriter output?

It kind of undermines the argument, and instead insists that the site looking like just a page of text is the important aspect.

hackerbeat 2 hours ago [-]
Agreed. And by the way, I really love the simplicity of https://wordgag.com/ (even though it has some ads on it).
rkagerer 28 minutes ago [-]
That popup at the bottom is gross, and there's a whole screen worth of ads to scroll by as soon as you get rid of it.

I'm sorry but your page is a prime example of web enshittification. It's the kind of site I immediately move on from.

layer8 53 minutes ago [-]
I like text-only web pages, but please don’t use a monospace typeface.
cvoss 44 minutes ago [-]
Different typefaces have different functions. If the goal is to be able to properly align/indent/space complex texts on a text-only site, a proportional font is not only ugly but actually unusable.
layer8 23 minutes ago [-]
I don’t think the article means to prohibit CSS (or tables) for layout. It is using text markup, and has a footer with CSS padding as well. Proportional fonts are perfectly compatible with aligning and indenting. Look at Craigslist for example.
macspoofing 2 hours ago [-]
Kinda slow when switching sections.
superkuh 1 hours ago [-]
It doesn't have to be text only. An html only webpage has all the same benefits. The real issue everyone has a problem with is javascript applications. The images and even multi-media in a static webpage made of html on HTTP/1.1 are not really the problem. Geocities sites had plenty of images and they were just as accessible as a 'text only' page/
revskill 30 minutes ago [-]
Good luck rendering latex.
eppo999 2 hours ago [-]
yes yes yes
dheera 2 hours ago [-]
> They're a refuge from the GDPR cookie banners

When I get presented with one of these I often just click out of the website.

If you're looking to spread information, make it easy by just delivering it to me unobstructed. Your GDPR bullshit doesn't apply to me anyway, I'm not in the EU.

artursapek 2 hours ago [-]
slop
ninetyninenine 2 hours ago [-]
I prefer images.

Text is fed into my brain and then my brain needs to generate the image related to the text so in the end it’s all images anyway.

A text based webpage just causes me to do more work and even then the image in my mind could be wildly inaccurate.

wilkystyle 2 hours ago [-]
What images would you have preferred the author use in this blog post?
cosmicgadget 2 hours ago [-]
A picture of a text only post, obviously.
ninetyninenine 2 hours ago [-]
Like a youtube video where he narrates his whole idea with different cuts of his ideas in action.

Videos that contrast as he narrating the beauty of text based pages with examples of the contrary and a panning camera.

For this:

>You can paste the whole thing into an email to a friend. You can put it in ChatGPT to ask questions.

>Hell—you can post the whole thing on X and pretend you wrote it!

I'd like to see flashcuts of a person in front of the computer actually doing it while he narrates it. With cool music.

That style. Because this is what my brain is producing in my head if he doesn't.

bccdee 12 minutes ago [-]
Videos are good for passive consumption but terrible for active consumption. I can't skim or linger or jump back and forth at a glance.

Besides, flash-cuts of people acting out narration with music offer me nothing. A video like that is functionally just audio—a great candidate for playing in the background, in another tab, while I do something else.

aniviacat 1 hours ago [-]
A significant issue with videos is that it's harder/impossible to skim them. Also, they don't allow for (accurate) quick search.

I'm optimistic we'll soon see some AI startup provide proper solutions to these issues. But until then I prefer text.